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The changes here were first merged in #143357 and later reverted in #144098 as it introduces new hard errors. There was a crater run tracked in #144139 to see how much projects would be broken (not that many, a few repositories on github are affected).

This reenables hard errors for privacy in RPITIT.

Fixes #143531
Closes #144139
Hopefully closes #71043

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Gentle ping @cjgillot

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joshtriplett commented Nov 5, 2025

This came up in today's @rust-lang/lang meeting. It's clear why this needed an FCP (as it's a breaking change), but we didn't feel like we had the context. Could we get a clear ask for what exactly the new hard error is that we're reviewing?

Does this just make it a hard error to write a public trait that has something like -> impl Trait using a private trait? Or is there more to it than that? The discussion in #144139 makes it sound like it's substantially more complex and subtle than that.

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mladedav commented Nov 6, 2025

It is a little bit more subtle in the current form, the main weirdness I remember is that creating a required method returning a private impl trait does not error out, only providing an implementation does, so

pub trait Foo {
    fn required_impl_trait() -> impl Private;
}

does not error while

pub trait Foo {
    fn required_impl_trait() -> impl Private;
}

impl Foo for S {
    fn required_impl_trait() -> impl Private { X }
}

and

pub trait Foo {
    fn provided_impl_trait() -> impl Private { X }
}

both error out.

The error is also reported when the Private trait is used in generic bounds of the method.

And then for AFIT it seems to work the same after desugaring, so async fn required_async_concrete() -> PrivateStruct; works the same way as it desugars to returning an impl trait which is considered private due to its private associated type. So declaring the method in the trait is not linted while implementing it is.

As I understand it, this is not as strict as it should be based on @petrochenkov's comment and even the first case of defining the trait should be rejected.

Here is a playground with more cases to see what does and does not produce errors (though the errors are just comments but compiling the code on this branch should provide the stated results).


To summarize, this adds errors when using a private trait in RPITIT but when the offending trait is not used in a trait bound and an implementation is not provided, there is a false negative an the error is not emitted even though it should be.

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traviscross commented Nov 6, 2025

@mladedav: I'm having trouble working out the reason why we'd give a hard error for the RPIT-in-trait-impl,

trait PrivTr {}
impl PrivTr for () {}
#[expect(private_bounds)]
pub trait PubTr {
    fn f1() -> impl PrivTr;
}
impl<T> PubTr for T {
    #[expect(private_interfaces)]
    fn f1() -> impl PrivTr {}
    //~^ error[E0446]: private trait `PrivTr` in public interface
    //~| help: can't leak private trait
}

given that we don't give an error for an RPIT-in-free-function,

trait PrivTr {}
impl PrivTr for () {}

#[expect(private_interfaces)]
pub fn f2() -> impl PrivTr {} //~ OK

and given that we allow the comparable associated type desugaring of the RPITIT:

trait PrivTr {}
impl PrivTr for () {}
pub trait PubTr {
    #[expect(private_bounds)]
    type F1: PrivTr; //~ OK
    fn f1() -> Self::F1;
}
impl<T> PubTr for T {
    type F1 = ();
    fn f1() -> Self::F1 {}
}

What's the rationale here?

cc @petrochenkov


I note that on nightly we give an error for this, when desugaring the RPIT-in-trait-impl to ATPIT:

#![feature(impl_trait_in_assoc_type)]
trait PrivTr {}
impl PrivTr for () {}
pub trait PubTr {
    #[expect(private_bounds)]
    type F1: PrivTr; //~ OK
    fn f1() -> Self::F1;
}
impl<T> PubTr for T {
    type F1 = impl PrivTr;
    //~^ error[E0446]: private trait `PrivTr` in public interface
    fn f1() -> Self::F1 {}
}

What's the rationale here? It makes sense why we can't leak a private type in this way -- we'd then be allowing a private type to be named. Why does this rise to the level of a hard error for a private trait in an impl trait bound?


Also, on the PR, I notice that placing the expect over the trait item doesn't work.

trait PrivTr {}
impl PrivTr for () {}
pub trait PubTr {
    #[expect(private_bounds)] //~ warning: this lint expectation is unfulfilled
    fn f1() -> impl PrivTr;
    //~^ warning: trait `PrivTr` is more private than the item `PubTr::f1::{anon_assoc#0}`
}

Should it?

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tmandry commented Dec 3, 2025

@petrochenkov Do you agree with the analysis I wrote above?

Also, regarding the equivalence to associated types, in the lang meeting we were surprised to see that this compiled:

mod m {
    pub trait Outer {
        #[expect(private_bounds)]
        type Inner: Private;
        fn get(&self) -> Self::Inner;
    }
    trait Private {}
}

fn foo<T: m::Outer>(inp: &T) {
    let x: T::Inner = inp.get();
}

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petrochenkov commented Dec 4, 2025

@petrochenkov Do you agree with the analysis I wrote above?

I agree.

Also, regarding the equivalence to associated types, in the lang meeting we were surprised to see that this compiled:

Discussed above in #146470 (comment).
Upd: I think c5221eb should be bundled into this PR and everything should be merged together.

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tmandry commented Dec 5, 2025

Thanks for confirming @petrochenkov. So if I understand correctly, another framing we can use is that there was a bug in how we handled associated type bounds (it's a bug in that it diverged from the original pub-in-priv RFC). Together with c5221eb, this PR would be fixing that bug both in direct associated types and in RPITITs (which desugar to associated types).

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tmandry commented Dec 10, 2025

I've updated the lang report in #146470 (comment).

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tmandry commented Dec 10, 2025

@petrochenkov Has a crater run ever been done for c5221eb?

If not, could one of you include it in this PR and kick off a crater run please?

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Has a crater run ever been done for c5221eb?

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I've added 14fea185a93 which seems to be the same commit, but I couldn't find c5221eb anywhere in the history or petrochenkov's fork.

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---- [pretty] tests/pretty/qpath-associated-type-bound.rs stdout ----
------rustc stdout------------------------------

------rustc stderr------------------------------
error[E0446]: private trait `Tu` in public interface
##[error]  --> <anon>:6:9
   |
 6 |         type Ts: super::Tu;
   |         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ can't leak private trait
...
10 | trait Tu {
   | -------- `Tu` declared as private

warning: trait `Tu` is never used
##[warning]  --> <anon>:10:7
   |
10 | trait Tu {
   |       ^^
   |
   = note: `#[warn(dead_code)]` (part of `#[warn(unused)]`) on by default

warning: function `foo` is never used
##[warning]  --> <anon>:14:4
   |
14 | fn foo<T: m::Tr>() { <T as m::Tr>::Ts::dummy(); }
   |    ^^^

warning: trait `Tr` is never used
##[warning] --> <anon>:5:15
  |
---
------------------------------------------

error: pretty-printed source does not typecheck
status: exit status: 1
command: env -u RUSTC_LOG_COLOR RUSTC_ICE="0" RUST_BACKTRACE="short" "/checkout/obj/build/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/stage2/bin/rustc" "-" "-Zno-codegen" "--out-dir" "/checkout/obj/build/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/test/pretty/qpath-associated-type-bound/qpath-associated-type-bound.pretty-out" "--target=x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu" "-L" "/checkout/obj/build/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/test/pretty" "-L" "/checkout/obj/build/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/test/pretty/qpath-associated-type-bound/auxiliary.pretty" "-A" "internal_features" "--check-cfg" "cfg(test,FALSE)" "-Crpath" "-Cdebuginfo=0"
stdout: none
--- stderr -------------------------------
error[E0446]: private trait `Tu` in public interface
##[error]  --> <anon>:6:9
   |
 6 |         type Ts: super::Tu;
   |         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ can't leak private trait
...
10 | trait Tu {
   | -------- `Tu` declared as private

warning: trait `Tu` is never used
##[warning]  --> <anon>:10:7
   |
10 | trait Tu {
   |       ^^
   |
   = note: `#[warn(dead_code)]` (part of `#[warn(unused)]`) on by default

warning: function `foo` is never used
##[warning]  --> <anon>:14:4
   |
14 | fn foo<T: m::Tr>() { <T as m::Tr>::Ts::dummy(); }
   |    ^^^

warning: trait `Tr` is never used
##[warning] --> <anon>:5:15
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tmandry commented Dec 10, 2025

@rfcbot resolve is my understanding correct

I think I understand this now and am comfortable with moving forward conservatively, pending crater results.

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As I said in the meeting:

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This seems like a sensible extension and intuitively matches what we do for returning a value of a private struct. Longer term, I would still like to reframe our privacy rules in terms of "capabilities associated with a trait" as I described earlier, and before we actually land this I do want to see the results of the crater run, but generally convinced this is the right next step.

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Most of the regressions are crates depending on image-0.25.(7,8,9).
Time to resurrect the private_in_public future compatibility warning, I guess, it was used for closing similar holes in the past.

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